{"id":3504,"date":"2016-06-15T09:38:53","date_gmt":"2016-06-15T09:38:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.creusonslabible.fr\/?p=3504"},"modified":"2016-06-15T09:38:53","modified_gmt":"2016-06-15T09:38:53","slug":"jean-14-15-29-de-disciples-a-apotres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clone.foienquestions.eu\/?p=3504","title":{"rendered":"Jean 14.15-29 &#8211; De disciples \u00e0 ap\u00f4tres"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Contexte<\/h3>\n<p>Nous sommes dans le discours d&#8217;adieu de J\u00e9sus \u00e0 ses disciples juste avant son arrestation au chapitre 18. Le Ma\u00eetre dit aux 11 ce qu&#8217;il attend d&#8217;eux pour le futur mais il y a 2 choses tr\u00e8s frappantes : 1) les ambitions de J\u00e9sus sont \u00e9normes et surtout 2) les disciples ne sont absolument pas pr\u00eats !<\/p>\n<h3>Comment garder les commandements ? (15-21)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Depuis le chapitre 13 jusqu&#8217;\u00e0 ce fameux verset, on voit des disciples (Pierre, Thomas et Philippe) qui ne comprennent rien \u00e0 ce que fait ou dit J\u00e9sus ! Pourquoi le v.15 pose-t-il probl\u00e8me ? Heureusement, qui va les aider ?<\/li>\n<li>Dans les versets 20 et 21, le St Esprit va aussi aider les disciples \u00e0 comprendre quelque chose de tr\u00e8s important : la communion ! Quels sont les rapports entre : 1) J\u00e9sus et le P\u00e8re, 2) J\u00e9sus et les disciples et 3) le P\u00e8re et les disciples ?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Comment transmettre les commandements ? (22-26)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Pourquoi Jude pose-t-il la question du v.22 ?<\/li>\n<li>Dans les versets 24 \u00e0 26, d\u00e9crivez le \u00ab\u00a0trajet de la Parole\u00a0\u00bb : elle part de qui, passe par qui, va vers qui et gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 qui ?<\/li>\n<li>J\u00e9sus se manifeste aux disciples et pas au monde&#8230; parce que ce sont les disciples qui sont appel\u00e9s \u00e0 \u00ab\u00a0manifester J\u00e9sus au monde\u00a0\u00bb ! Quel est le rique s&#8217;ils se rappellent mal des paroles de J\u00e9sus, s&#8217;ils interpr\u00e8tent mal son enseignement ou s&#8217;ils y ob\u00e9issent de travers ?<\/li>\n<li>Qu&#8217;est-ce qui nous assure que les ap\u00f4tres (= envoy\u00e9s) ont bien retransmis les vrais paroles et le vrai enseignement de J\u00e9sus ?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Applications<\/h3>\n<p>Nous n&#8217;avons pas le r\u00f4le capital des ap\u00f4tres mais certaines paroles de J\u00e9sus sont applicables :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Gardez-vous et ob\u00e9issez-vous aux commandements de J\u00e9sus ? Comment mieux faire ?<\/li>\n<li>Comment transmettez-vous l&#8217;enseignement de J\u00e9sus \u00e0 vos proches, coll\u00e8gues, amis, etc. ?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Contexte Nous sommes dans le discours d&#8217;adieu de J\u00e9sus \u00e0 ses disciples juste avant son arrestation au chapitre 18. 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