{"id":1948,"date":"2013-08-02T12:43:01","date_gmt":"2013-08-02T12:43:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.creusonslabible.fr\/?p=1948"},"modified":"2013-08-02T12:43:01","modified_gmt":"2013-08-02T12:43:01","slug":"genese-18-le-plan-de-dieu-la-priere-et-la-foi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clone.foienquestions.eu\/?p=1948","title":{"rendered":"Gen\u00e8se 18 &#8211; Le plan de Dieu, la pri\u00e8re et la foi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><b>Lire le texte<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Quel est le plan du texte ?<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">v1-19 : la venue des 3 hommes<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Qui sont ces hommes d&#8217;apr\u00e8s le texte ? (voir ce qu&#8217;en dit le texte, comment Abraham est avec eux, ce qu&#8217;ils disent &#8230;)<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Lisez aussi Gen\u00e8se 19.1, Hebreux 13.2 \u2013 et Apoc 3.20.<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Qui sont ces hommes donc ? <i>Ils sont l&#8217;Eternel &#8211; et en m\u00eame temps quand ils partent (en fait 2 d&#8217;entre eux cf.19.1) l&#8217;Eternel reste pour parler avec Abraham. ce sont donc aussi des hommes, et anges. Bref, volontairement le texte reste flou : ils sont 2 ? ils sont 3 ? Ce sont des hommes ? des anges ? mais est tr\u00e8s clair qu&#8217;ils sont l&#8217;Eternel !<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Que disent ces &#8220;hommes ?<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Quelle est la r\u00e9action d&#8217;Abraham ? de Sara ? Est-ce que cela change quelque chose pour Dieu ?<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">v20 \u00e0 33 : Intercession pour Sodome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Pourquoi \u00e0 votre avis Dieu r\u00e9v\u00e8le ses plans \u00e0 Abraham concernant Sodome et Gomorrhe ? (cf. Jean 15.15)<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Quelles sont les caract\u00e9ristique de la pri\u00e8re d&#8217;Abraham :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i>fait appel \u00e0 une vision juste de la personne de Dieu (v25)<\/i><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i>s&#8217;humilie r\u00e9ellement devant Dieu (v27)<\/i><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Pourquoi Abraham fait cette pri\u00e8re \u00e0 votre avis ? Que voulait-il vraiment ? (si vous \u00eates dans le noir regardez Gen\u00e8se 19.19)<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Pourquoi \u00e0 votre avis n&#8217;a-t-il pas demander cela directement \u00e0 Dieu ? <i>On en sait rien. Si vous \u00eates optimiste vous pouvez dire qu&#8217;il met de c\u00f4t\u00e9 ses sentiments perso pour se concentrer sur Dieu et sa justice, si vous \u00eates pessimistes vous pouvez dire qu&#8217;il ne se sent pas libre de dire \u00e0 Dieu ce qu&#8217;il pense vraiment.<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Quels sont les effets de la pri\u00e8re ?<i> Les justes sont sauv\u00e9s (19.12 et suivants) donc exaucement de la pri\u00e8re mais pas comme exactement Abraham l&#8217;avait demand\u00e9 (il voulait que la ville reste debout)<\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><b>Application<\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Le texte (la premi\u00e8re partie) nous apprend que la r\u00e9alisation des plans de Dieu \u00e0 notre \u00e9gard ne d\u00e9pendent pas de notre foi : Qu&#8217;en pensez-vous ?<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">Le texte (la deuxi\u00e8me partie) nous apprend que Dieu \u00e9coute notre pri\u00e8re (m\u00eame informul\u00e9e) sans changer ses plans : Qu&#8217;en pensez-vous ?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lire le texte Quel est le plan du texte ? v1-19 : la venue des 3 hommes Qui sont ces hommes d&#8217;apr\u00e8s le texte ? 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